I went to a live game on Tuesday, anyway, didn’t play, but I walked up to watch afterward and there was also another 2/5 game going, guys from another private club who play there when their club is closed for a week during the summer. They hire a dealer and so forth but they also stole the biggest fish from our old 1/2 game, the really rich guy who gets loaded and donks off his money.
Ask Bet & Win Poker… A follow up with our last to ask…
In our last Ask Bet & Win segment we had a good chat about an email from one of our readers who is an avid online poker and live player. He’s taken a self inflicted break from the game to regather himself before tackling it anew. As these things tend to work the break isn’t complete abstinence and he corresponds about some of his latest adventures and asks for some Texas Holdem poker tips. He writes:
“I’m breaking my month long poker ban after 17 days but only to play the a tourney tonight since I know how much I can lose before going in and if it is a good turnout the upside is high. Plus, it is kind of just for fun more than anything else and if I want, I can just buy in once. Cash game ban is still in effect for another two and a half weeks, until mid-August.
Sure enough, he donked off a bunch, then joined the 1/2 game and donked off $300, losing about $200 on this hand:
Heads up (I missed preflop action, wasn’t huge):
Flop: AAK rainbow. Good player checks, donk bets, good player calls.
Turn: low brick, no draw. Good player checks, donk checks.
River: K, making board AAKxK. Good player checks, Donk bets $25, good player min-raises to $50, Donk shoves all in for $135 more. Good player calls.
Good player has the A, donk has the K.
Those are the kinds of hands I was winning from him all the time but he hasn’t played in awhile. The game plays pretty big these days, there was a 5-way hand that went like this the other night:
UTG (very good player): Raise to $8
UTG +1 (best player there): Call
Player 2 (my nemesis, let’s just call him nemesis from here on out): Call
Player 4: Call
Player 5: Call
SB: Raise to $40
UTG: Call
UTG +1: Call
Nemesis: Call
Player 4: Fold
Player 5: Call
Five handed to a 7,6,2 rainbow flop. SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $115. Nemesis raises to $250. Player 5 folds, SB folds, UTG tanks and then folds, not realizing he wasn’t heads up, shows 9,9. UTG+1 now tanks but eventually folds. Nemesis wins ($574 pot). He had 10,10. SB had AQ suited, I hate the raise to $40 preflop out of position from the SB against 5 players, including an UTG preflop raiser. UTG+1 didn’t show or say but I think he had something like JJ or 88, probably the latter.
I thought UTG should have re-popped to ~$100 preflop (though watching is easier than actually playing) because it probably eliminates everyone between him and the SB, who, if he has anything from AK or JJ down, really has to think about getting 4 bet from a guy who is showing big strength with his second preflop raise (which is why I think everyone else probably folds in between too especially b/c they each only had $8 in the pot at that point). It’s a tough play though because if anyone else 5 bets the pot, you have to fold and give away $100. But no one else is likely to since they all merely called the $8 and would have raised previously to thin the field with better hands. Even with a call preflop by the SB you are still in position the rest of the hand. What do you think?”
We’ll follow up with our thoughts in our next post…